After doing some digging, I found evidences to back up the reasons I don’t believe in evolution and also am giving the links that explain the reasoning…….After reading this document, I just gave all the more glory to God, He is SO amazing….here’s the proof…This is just one of many I have found and left everything in quotes because while it is everything I believe these are from an article and not written by me.......I'm not this brainy!!!! LOL“There are no transitional links and intermediate forms in either the fossil record or the modern world. Therefore, there is no actual evidence that evolution has occurred either in the past or present.” http://emporium.turnpike.net/C/cs/evid1.htm
“Natural selection (the supposed evolution mechanism, along with mutations) is incapable of advancing an organism to a “higher order”. http://emporium.turnpike.net/C/cs/evid2.htm
“Although evolutionists state that life resulted from the non-life, matter resulted from nothing, and humans resulted from animals, each of these is an impossibility of science and the natural world.” http://emporium.turnpike.net/C/cs/evid3.htm
“The supposed hominids (creatures in-between ape and human that evolutionists believe used to exist) bones and skull record used by evolutionists often consists of ‘finds’ which are thoroughly unrevealing and inconsistent. They are neither clear nor conclusive even though evolutionists present them as if they were.” http://emporium.turnpike.net/C/cs/evid4.htm
“Nine of the twelve popularly supposed hominids are actually extinct apes/monkeys and not part human at all.” http://emporium.turnpike.net/C/cs/evid5.htm
“The final three supposed hominids put forth by evolutionists are actually modern human beings and not part monkey/ape at all. Therefore, all twelve of the supposed hominids can be explained as being either fully monkey/ape or fully modern human but not as something in between.” http://emporium.turnpike.net/C/cs/evid6.htm
“Natural selection can be seen to have insurmountable social and practical inconsistencies, as well as severe logical inconsistencies.” http://emporium.turnpike.net/C/cs/evid7.htm, http://emporium.turnpike.net/C/cs/evid8.htm
“The rock strata finds (layers of buried fossils) are better explained by a universal flood than evolution.” http://emporium.turnpike.net/C/cs/evid9.htm
Beyond these are many others, and tomorrow I will be posting about proof of Creation…
Give your family an extra hug tonight as we remember those who gave their lives 6 years ago. Remember to take the time and thank God for all that He’s done in spite of the evil and ignorant choices of man. The words of one of my favorite worship tunes speaks of my heart today:
I just want to sit at Your feet, drink from the cup in Your hands,
Lay back against You and breathe, feel Your heart beat,
This Love is so deep, it’s more than I can stand,
I melt in Your peace, You’re overwhelming me….
25 comments:
Hi Godsgal. I am sure we can have a lot of "fun" with this topic.
Thanks for providing links to the site which you are using to support your opinion.
Of course it would take waaaaay to long to have any kind of meaningful discussion of this issue.
What I will comment on is the method I use to determine the credibility of a theory. I don't mean to imply that your research isn't adequate.
Looking quickly at the first finding sited by the Emporium:
“There are no transitional links and intermediate forms in either the fossil record or the modern world. Therefore, there is no actual evidence that evolution has occurred either in the past or present.”
The first reference I see on their site is to B.G Ranganathan, of the Banner of Truth Trust.
The above leads to me to a site called "Signs of Allah".
The Signs of Allah reference the "Russian evolutionist" Alexander Oprain.
Mr Oprain's book, The Origin of Life" was written in 1936.
There have been reolutionary advances made in the scientific study of evolution since 1936.
At this point I become skeptical of the credibility of the findings by the Emporium.
That is of course only one of the Emporium sites references. They list many more and the rest of may be better supported.
We all must decide for ourselves what sources of information we believe we can trust.
The first step for me is to see where a theory has been submitted for critical peer review.
Charles Darwin submitted his paper on evolution to the Linnean Society, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linnean_Society_of_London
I look at the information on the Linnean Society and I have some confidence that the information Darwin used to support his theory is credible.
I don't consider Darwin's theory of evolution to have been proven 100% correct. Research since he published his paper has shown that some of his ideas on the subject are most likely wrong.
I do have confidence that theory of evolution is scientifically valid.
With the theory of Intelligent Design I don't see where any of it's propoents have submitted a paper on this theory for critical peer review to an accreditted scientific body such as the Linnean Society.
As a result I don't believe it is as yet scientifically credible.
Ed it really doesn't matter what anyone says, if God Himself flicked your nose you would find a reason to explain why it wasn't Him. LOL I don't believe in evolution, I believe in the Living God......it's just amazing to me how much effort and length an athiest will put into NOT believing in God when it takes 1/20th the effort to believe. The thing is and the bottom line is, as long as you continue to deny Him, He will deny you as well.
gods gal,
If I was in a room by myself and something gave me a poke in the nose and said "This is God speaking" believe me I would take notice. :-).
For somethings using reason and logic won't work. Love is like that. You either feel love or you don't.
When it comes to believing in an idea, like how did humans develop, that is where I use reason and logic.
Ed, I agree that you either feel love or you don't, but when you love someone, do you not need to know them first? Have you asked Him if He is real? Have you asked Him to poke your nose? Are you ready to accept Him when He does? :)
It takes more faith to believe in evolution than it does to believe in God. I am so crazy about HIM!
I agree sweet darla, and ME TOO!!!! hey, I wanna go to Texas! You got me thinkin girl ;)
To reverse your argument GG...
If you were to see incontrovertible evidence that humanity DID indeed evolve from ancient earlier forms of life...would you be willing to change your mind?
I have read Michael Behe and many other works by "ICR" and the "Answers in Genesis" crowd. They all "cherry pick" the evidence to support their preconceived notions...thats not Science.
It seems to me the only evidence you are willing to look at is that which already supports your beliefs.
Have you ever read a serious book outlining the intricacies of descent through mutation and adaptation?
Because I can assure you Evolutionary theory is on firm ground. All the Biblical/Christian apologists in the world will NOT change that.
Darla likes to quip "It takes more faith to believe in evolution."
I will grant that it does take some time to read the theory and get through the evidence, but its there and once you understand it and grasp its beauty and sheer elegance it makes perfect sense...as Francis Collins, himself a born again Christian who was in charge of the Human Genome project, it is "The Language of GOD"
Sirrobert, while I am willing to debate on FC about my beliefs, this is my blog, and on this blog I will honor God with all of my heart soul and strength.....It's hard enough to hold my tongue at times on FC, and believe me I won't do it here....so if you would like to comment respectively on this blog, I welcome it, athiest or not.....ie...take a lesson from Hover....if not I will ask you to refrain, that being said, to answer your question no, I am not now nor am I ever going to be willing to look at anything but the Bible and Jesus Christ. I searched for years and found everything I need in Him and His Word. It would be completely worthless to me to search for more when I have found Him.
Humanist supporters often claim that there is "overwhelming evidence"
for the theory of evolution. That is non-sense. There is solid geologic
evidence for escalating death of life forms on Earth since 700 Million
BC, but that is no "evidence" for evolution. The question is "why were
there periods of extinctions and restorations of life forms on Earth in
the ancient past, at least six times?".
There are "young Earth" believers, that refuse to face the reality of a
multi-billion year old Earth. So much so that they will redefine the
"first day" of Moses in order to make it fit their false doctrine of a
10,000 year old universe. Being hypocrites, they will claim to use
"plain literal interpretation" of scripture, until you ask them "where
did the water come from on the first day in Genesis?". They can't
answer without adding acts of God (to the scripture) that the
scriptures plainly do not describe. If God made the water "before
the first day", then it took Him longer than one week to create the
universe. When you "corner them" with scripture, they run away.
The "Day/Age" believers actually call God a liar, saying that He
did not create the Earth & universe in six literal days (Exodus 20:11).
The Theistic Evolutionists, and the Ruin & Restorationists use the
'excuse' that there was only a "parting away of clouds" on the Fourth
Day, which is clearly a misrepresentation of God's Word. They all
deny the truth of scripture, saying that each day in Genesis chapter
one were long periods of time.
All of the above groups live in a delusion, not willing to accept, nor
try to find, the truth. They only look in their own little corner, and try
to proclaim a universal truth, without examining all available evidence.
After all is said and done, by both believers and non-believers, the
book "Moses Didn't Write About Creation!", is the only book ever
written that is congruent with the "first day" of Moses (24 hrs), the
"Fourth Day" of Moses (24 hrs), and the geologic record of prehistoric
Earth, reconciling Genesis with the 600+ million year fossil record. It
promotes the doctrine of "Biblical Reality".
(ISBN-13: 978-1424182206, PublishAmerica.com).
Herman Cummings
PO Box 1745
Fortson GA, 31808
Ephraim7@aol.com
HC, thank you for your comments and I appreciate your sharing. I guess, what I'm trying to say about my own beliefs, is I'm always willing to listen. I don't want to become unwilling to learn and hear other people and theories. But then, when I draw a conclusion that is not in alignment with someone else I don't want to be ripped apart for it. I have come to know the Lord on a very personal level, I don't claim to have all the answers and will probably continue searching until the day I die. But the constant in my life is Jesus Christ. One thing I find interesting is that everyone has their pieces of liturature they refer to, but they are just men relaying thoughts to men. When I read God's word, I recieve understanding there....for my life for my families life, more than any other religion or "god" that I have looked into. Those other gods are man made and dead to me...When I experienced God, the living God, in ways that He has allowed me to experience, it removed all doubt in my mind as to His existence. Can I figure Him out? No, I can gain wisdom and increase in knowledge of Him and what He wants for my life (which is always quite the adventure by the way), but what a small god that would be if my pea brain could figure Him out. Unless someone was actually there...I hope no one tells me they were....for the creation, I doubt my mind would change about what the word says. Am I willing to listen to different interpretations of His word, You Bet! Again, I value comments from non-believers here as long as they are respectful of my beliefs and others who are primarily Christian base, again, my purpose is to Glorify God...thank you for your input!
As this is your blog and others have already left comments proposing new evidence I won't repeat what they have said.
My question to you though is this: Why do you consider evolution and Christianity to be mutually exclusive?
I left a long comment of FC about intelligence but I'm going to repeat myself here. Many Christians don’t have a problem with evolution. They argue that any being capable of creating the universe could begin life and set it along an evolutionary path. Furthermore the bible stories, they argue, are not literal as the “days” it took to create the universe could just as easily refer to “ages”. The original text was translated to the closest equivalent in Greek, then Latin, then English. It’s easy to see how a period of time could translate to “day”.
Although I think that this is still not correct I see no reason for Christians not to alter their views to conform to established evidence. Even the Vatican has accepted that the sun doesn't revolve around the earth, after all.
Hi Gods Gal
Truly I respect that you have made your choice... that is entirely YOUR prerogative and right.
However it is YOU who have chosen to try to discredit the FACT of evolution using the convoluted REASON of Creationists and Intelligent Design advocates.
I would GLADLY shut my mouth and accept your FAITH in the Bible IF you would just leave it at that. However you chose to give your ear to pseudo-scientific reasons for your belief in the biblical Creation story.
All of the arguments form the Creationist viewpoint that you mentioned your original post have been roundly and soundly dismissed for what they are: misrepresentations or outright misunderstanding of the observed facts. I could give you many sources of literature that would show you this in great detail. But what good would that do, since you said you have no intention of looking at them with an open mind?
Listen I am not here to upset or insult you and if I have I am truly sorry. You are well within your right to quote all the Bible verse you will to support your faith and your world view. But you can't have it both ways. You can't say you believe by faith and then turn around and try to use reason to support your faith. Reason is the domain of Science and Logic. If you venture into that realm and then quote from notoriously bad sources, people like myself will call you on it.
My interest is in the epistemological basis for those things which people hold to be true.
I accept your view (please correct me if I am wrong here) which I interpret as "The Bible/God says it, I believe it that settles it!"
That is perfectly acceptable to me!
But you can't venture into reason to defend that.
Sincerely,
Robert
Robert, you can't have it both ways either, and quite frankly I can do and write whatever I wish on my own blog...thank you. Again, your "reasoning" is ludicrous!! Your "scientific evidence" is man thought of and extrememely limited, and your right, I don't have to defend or support my faith. If your calling scripture a notoriously bad source, i really feel sorry for you. All of your logic and science won't help you avoid an eternity in hell.....
Hov: Again, thank you for your comments, there are scripture in the Bible that speak of a day being as a thousand years....etc. But I guess I am done arguing such things as unless someone was there, it really is a mute point. I am willing to look at everything, but unless it is a salvation issue I don't see the point in arguing. I've gotten to a place lately and become someone I don't really like because of my defensiveness over my God. SO, I will no longer argue things that really no man can prove no matter how many books they read or papers they right.....salvation issues, eternal issues are fine, but this blog will return to being fun, and light and an honoring one to Christ.....hope I didn't scare you off, I really enjoy your comments. :)
darla said:
"It takes more faith to believe in evolution than it does to believe in God. I am so crazy about HIM!"
I agree with you Darla when I was young it was easy to believe in God because I simply accepted what I was told.
Using reason and logic is much more work.
I do however that find using reason and logic is much more stimulating an experience for me than unquestioning acceptance.
I love doing reasearch.
We can't really make value judgements about each other's degree of joy.
All I can say is I find the process of asking questions much more rewarding than simply accepting what someone tells me.
Except that you only used one incredibly biased source that offers no sources of its own.
Try again. :/
Your blog keeps getting better and better! Your older articles are not as good as newer ones you have a lot more creativity and originality now keep it up!
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